tv Special Report With Bret Baier FOX News May 8, 2012 3:00pm-4:00pm PDT
any book that vince vaughn reads has to be a good book. >> eric: facebook in a couple minutes. peg your questions. i'll answer them. see you tomorrow, everybody. >> bret: the inside story on the inside man who foiled the latest underwear bomb plot. this is "special report." ♪ ♪ >> bret: good evening. i'm bret baier. we are learning more tonight about just how the u.s. and its allies were able to stop terrorists blowing up a commercial airliner with a sophisticated new bomb. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge has the update. >> fox news learned al-qaeda cell was implicated in this seizure of the device similar to the underwear bomb worn by mutollab that targeted a flight on christmas day in 2009. at least three countries are involved in the ongoing intelligence operation and
there is reason to believe more bombs may be out there. the drone strikes sunday in yemen that targeted operative who met with mutallob is part of the ongoing operation focused on al-qaeda in the arabian peninsula. >> for instance, the killer of the leader over the weekend was tied to this operation. this is more than just one person, one bomb. this is a larger scale operation. >> reporter: the device now analyzed by the f.b.i. lab in quantico, virginia, is a gold mine of information. investigators are assessing whether the bomb-maker ibrahim hassan al-asiri has overcome the technical problem that led the first underwear bomb and donator to fail if 2009. middle east intelligence source says there is a reason to believe they're training apprentices because they know he is a tier one target. >> without going in specifics, we have to assume with what we have seen with al-qaeda in the past, they do train others to take up where they leave off,
because they have seen a success of the top leadership attack successfully taken off the battlefield for good. >> while the white house confirms that the president knew in early april the homeland secretary insists it was not marking one year since the seal raid. >> the statement there is no specific credible plot tied to the anniversary of bin laden's death. that is an accurate statement. >> reporter: on the eve of the anniversary theyished they d statement saying there was no credible plot. >> it does not make sense to me that the bulletin was put out if the president has been aware of this plot since last month. so there does appear to be an inconsistency there. but perhaps there is a good reason for it. >> late today, the chair and ranking member of the senate intelligence committee said the leak about the c.i.a. operation is regarded as very
serious. at least one congressman is publicly calling for an investigation. >> bret: so that will continue for some time. >> it will. the f.b.i. director is on the hill tomorrow. >> bret: thank you. >> you're welcome. >> bret: it's getting more and more difficult for president obama to continue to finesse his stance on gay marriage. the president walked a fine line on it for years. but now some of his core supporters are doing their talking with the checkbooks. chief white house correspondent ed henry on the search for election year clarity. >> while president obama headed to upstate new york to shift the focus back to slamming a do-nothing congress -- >> there is no excuse for inaction. >> he is still facing pressure gay right advocates. threatening to home back campaign money because of inaction on their agenda. top democrats confirming that "washington post" report some gay activists are sitting on major checks because the president has not signed an exective order banning same-sex discrimination by federal contractors. after deep frustration on same-sex marriage.
>> we believe in the golden rule, treating others as you want to be treated. >> evan wilson notes his group does not endorse candidates he will share a stage on monday at the college commencement and he plans to thank the president for progress made but push him to go further. others are not as diplomatic. withholding large checks to the pro obama super pac, priorities usa. obama campaign officials note they have got an lot of money from gays and lesbians and are turning the focus to presumptive republican nominee mitt romney. obama campaign spokesman saying on the issues important to gays and lesbians, governor romney hasn't evolved. he has regressed. the president may face more questions thursday when actor george clooney hosts a massive fundraiser. the campaign needs the money to fund $25 million ad buy that blames the bush administration. >> america's economy spiraling down. all before this president took the oath. >> while the president gave
congress a to do list -- >> everybody knows we need to do more. republicans counter the latest position has more to do with jobs. >> it's more than what they think is good for the president's election. >> source familiar with the clooney fundraiser tells fox it could net $14.5 million. to set a record for one event. campaign officials downplay the number but bottom line i'm told they are raising $6 million from individuals and they raised $8.5 million from a raffle to get a chance to dine with the president and clooney. >> ed henry live on the north lawn. thank you. labor department says the companies post highest number of job openings in march in four years. but there are still 3-1/2 people competing for each open position. the stocks were down today. the dow lost 76.
nasdaq was off 11-1/2. there are some cracks emerging in the europe newfound fiscal framework. correspondent shannon bream tells us how that could possibly translate to big problems for president obama. >> i think the unhappiness with the status quo in the european nations and with the united states. >> leaders in greece are struggling to form a new government after sunday vote that served as a reversal for parties that worked to enact the austerity measures. in france, voters rejected the status quo on sunday ousting president nicolas sarkozy in favor of his socialist challenger, francois hollande who has signaled he will move away from belt-tightening policies. last week, voters in britain stripped hundreds of local seats from conservative and liberal democrats over a struggling economy. could the up-ending of incumbents mean trouble for president obama come november? >> i would worry about the trend if i was the obama strategist in the prudential center in chicago looking out over lake michigan toward europe. i would be concerned about
that. >> political analysts say the weigh of voters turning out leaders across europe stems from growing unrest on economic possibilities and worry about the future. a sentiment not uncommon at home in the u.s. recent average of polls of the direction of the united states shows bay 2 to 1 margin americans feel the country is headed in the wrong direction. speaking in new york today, the president sounded like he doesn't plan to reopen the strategy. >> we have an economy that serve working, everybody plays by the same set of rules. >> romney criticized the president. >> this is becoming much more like europe. with chronic high unemploymen unemployment, perilous level of debt. >> many democrats count they're the situation to europe and the u.s. are like apples and oranges. >> what is happening in europe is it's an interesting cautionary tale. for economists.
for most part the president is in good stand and this is a different situation than what we are looking at in the united states. >> polling shows voters gave romney three-point advantage on who is better steward of the economy, battleground states, ohio, and michigan with lower unemployment than national average could offer the current administration electoral advantage. >> bret: thank you. hopes are fading for major nuclear talks between israel and the muslim rivals. iran and arab countrys accuse israel of being the greatest threat to peace in the region. egypt is warning that arab states might rethink the opposition to nuclear arms. the vice president blames america for problems with iran. that is later in the grapevine. up next, mitt romney, president obama, and the "l" word. nnouncer ] they were born to climb... born to leap, born to stalk, and born to pounce. to understand why, we journeyed to africa,
each other, mitt romney and rick santorum are now saying good things about each other. sort of. meanwhile, chief political correspondent carl cameron tells us romney is saving his best lines for president obama. >> with the president trying to define the bar like conservative based on the g.o.p. primary rhetoric, mitt romney trying to turn the table, countering in his native michigan that obama is old style liberal based on his record. >> obama applies liberal ideas of the past to 21st century america. >> policies didn't work back then. they haven't worked in the last four years. they will not work in the future. >> the president paints romney as greedy, out-of-touch businessman following the policies of the george w. bush era. >> he is still pushing tax breaks for companies to shift jobs overseas. that's just what you expect from a guy with a swiss bank account. >> romney says obama is a throw-back to overbrand of liberalism. bill clinton and the new
democrats abandoned him and then were able to balance the federal budget. >> president clinton made efforts to reform welfare as we know it. burr president obama is trying to expand the welfare state. >> apart from trying to drive a wedge when clinton and obama democrats, they look at julia, fictional life. >> what does it say about the president's policy when he has to use a cartoon character, rather than real people to justify the record. >> four days after romney met with rick santorum, fanfare free endorsement arose. he wrote d. governor romney and i have differences but there are areas we agree. we agree that president obama must be defeated. the task will not be easy but it will require all hands on deck for our nominee to be victorious. governor romney will be that
nominee and he has my support to win the most critical election of our lifetime." romney knows some republicans are cool to him in the next few months he can heat them up against president obama with reminders of the obama record. >> bret: speaking position at the convention? >> probably helps. yeah. >> bret: fox news is first to bring you picture of illinois republican senator mark kirk working hard to recover from a stroke suffered in january. this is video that the senator's office gave us of him working at rehabilitation facility if chicago and he talked about the problems. >> suffered a stroke on the 21st of january. and thanks to the doctors, nurses and professionals of the rehabilitation institute of chicago. the r.i.c.. i'm walking again. leading to my hope to climb the 45 step that my staff counted from the parking lot
to the senate front door. >> bret: we wish him well. this could be a landmark day in indiana politics. correspondent steve brown tells us about a serious channel to a politician who was -- challenge to a politician who is virtually a hoosier institution. >> state treasurer richard murdoch said he never doubted to defeat indiana living legend, senator lugar in today's republican primary. >> we'll be shocking people how many counties we win tomorrow. large county, small county. >> he raised $2 million to lugar's five but he is positioned to win due to outside help. 50-plus hoosier tea party groups work a ground game to coordinate with freedom works. the club for growth spent $1.7 million on direct mail, radio and tv ads, many pummeling lugar senate vote. >> he has a 65% of lifetime score with the club for growth. he voted for every bail-out he had an opportunitybe to. he voteded for tarp. he voted to keep earmarks.
>> they're trying to prove their clout, their ability to move hoosiers around and manipulate our election. it resent them. >> but lugar's missteps have been costly. his home in virginia. and he want days of campaigning to opt to stay in d.c. and main tin his perfect voting -- maintain his perfect voting record. lugar warned that this is what the democrats would like because traditionally lugar friendly moderate and independents would be in play so national democrats agree preferring a donnelly-mourdock matchup in the fall. >> bret: the next? step to try to recall scott walker is taking place today. correspondent mike tobin reports on the search for an opponent. >> wisconsin republicans have been operating on the assumption that the primary
will leigh them with milwaukee mayor tom barrett as the democratic challenger to governor scott walker. >> love to have your vote. >> they're focusing exclusively on me. they know he cannot defend his record on jobs. >> if we stick together we get things done. >> former dade county executive falk is a favorite of the union. still, polls had her trailing significantly leading up to primary day. money is pouring in to wisconsin through the candidate and pacs. the democratic governor association is supporting the greater wisconsin committee now running ads. the latest linked for walker. >> how could walker not know what was happening a few feet from his desk? >> republican governors spending money through the organization called right direction and pin pointing barrett. >> barrett's agenda would take wisconsin backward. >> with few undecided, the nasty campaign willing only increase.
>> what a campaign wants to do is agitate its base. it wants to inflame their supporters to the point that the voters want to run to the polling place with their hair on fire yelling a screaming, i have to vote. >> dialogue shift away from the big fight over collective bargaining that got to us this point. it has ed to ideological referendum, the momentum from that, can carry to november. bret? >> thank you. more on both of those stories with the panel coming up. still ahead, the new series on the big election year issues and where the candidates stand. tonight, the were on terror. after the break, how much would it cost you to bail out the' tall service? service -- postal service? [ male announcer ] what's in your energy drink? ♪
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>> bret: the border patrol is announcing new national strategy. for two decades it relied on blanketing heavily trafficed corridors. now it will target repeat offenders and will try to determine why they keep coming. the patrol says illegal crossings of the mexico border are at a 40-year low. got watchdog says -- government watchdog says the federal aviation needs stronger oversight because it drags its feet on whistle blower complaint about safety programs and problems, rather. the special council says the one air traffic control facility on long island the workers slept in the control room, left early and used personal electronic devices on duty. senate republicans are blocking debate over a democratic bill to keep interest rates on college loans from doubling. they object to how democrats would pay for it by raising the payroll taxes on the high earning stockholders of some companies. the g.o.p. wants to apolish a healthcare slush fund instead. there is a big fight in
washington about what to do about the u.s. postal service. correspondent william la jeunesse looks at why the service is in trouble and the options for fixing it. ♪ ♪ ♪ try to get the mail through pony express ♪ >> a lot has changed since horses moved the mail. today it increasingly arrives like this -- >> you've got mail. >> because of it, the u.s. postal service is broke. >> if the post office was a business, it would be in bankruptcy. it's incontro incontrol vent. >> today -- insolvent. >> it does not receive a federal subsidy. it may be changing. >> today we took a very important first step to save an american institution. >> the u.s. senate passed $34 billion bill last month that prohibits the service from closing 250 mail processing service and 3,000 rural post offices. the subsidy fully funds a union retirement fund.
however, fiscal conservatives like congressman dennis ross say taxpayers should not be forced to sustain a business mod that started going out of business on the go. >> what do we need to do to make sure we cut something that needs to be cut. we we don't cut it are we willing to borrow money to fund it? >> how much could it cost you? go to the calculator at fox news.com. if you make between $30,000 and $50,000. it's $55. if you learn $100,000 to $200,000, your share $400. if you're in the top bracke bracket, -- >> they say the rate payers, do not bear the cost. some republicans say the bill will add billions to the national debt. >> bret: thank you. a one-time donor says john edwards thought president
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>> bret: now some fresh pickings from the political "grey's anatomy" after a little hiatus. vice president biden told jewish group that america used to be the problem in containing iran. >> when we took office, let me remind you, there was virtually no international pressure on iran. we were the problem. we were diplomatically isolated in the world. in the region. in europe. >> bret: romney campaign jumped on that saying biden statement blaming america for of all thing the progress of iran nuclear weapons program reached a new low. on background, the vp's office
says he was stating the fact that other countries believe the u.s. was the problem not iran. you paid millions of dollars to cover expenses for the four living presidents in 2010. abc news says president bush brought in $15 million in speaking fees that year but still expensed $1 million to taxpayers, including $80,000 phone bill. bill clinton brought in $10 million for speeches and expensed his $579 tab in office rent. utah republican congressman chafitz proposing end to taxpayer cover expenses for expresidents who earn more than $4,000 per year. finally, saturday, bake sales may soon be a thing of the past. in massachusetts, public schools.
unhealthy foods will be banned because of new guidelines. schools are encouraged but not required to extend the policy to evening and weekend events such as the sports concessions and fundraisers. so no more bake sales. maybe a fruit stand instead. tonight we have a new series on big issues facing the country in this election year. first up, national security. the presidential candidate position on the war on terror. here is senior white house foreign affairs correspondent wendell goler. >> both the president and his likely republican channeler accused the other of flip-flops and bad policy in the war against al-qaeda and the war on terror. a year after the death of usama bin laden mr. obama denies taking political advantage of it. >> i hardly think you have seen any excess i celebration taking place here. >> perhaps not if here is the white house. at campaign headquarters in
chicago he approved an add that asks which path would romney have taken? and said romney criticized obama for vowing to strike al-qaeda targets. >> in 2007, romney said it was "not worth moving heaven and earth spending billions of dollars trying to catch one person." a week later romney seemed to be on board. >> of course we get bin laden and track him where he has to go. >> the president took office promising to close the detention ability. but he refused when they controlled the house and senate. in the end of his first year in office, president sent 20,000 troops to afghanistan. >> i don't make the decision likely. >> he also didn't make it
open-ended. mr. obama announced in 2011 surge troops would be back by the fall of this year. romney blamed it on politics and promised a different course. >> i will order a review of the transition to military and secure sovereignty from the taliban. >> but poll showed dwindling support for longest war in history. in a surprise visit to afghanistan this month, mr. obama made clear he will stick with the timetable. >> this time of war began in afghanistan and this is where it will end. >> one of the foreign policy advisors says the agreement to bring home troops will be better based on bench mark than base. it would require trust that doesn't exist between the countries now. >> bret: thank you. first in the series. activist cheng says the chinese government quietly promise him it will investigate abuses he says he
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with the fact that men marrying men, women marrying women and heterosexual men and women marrying are entitled to the same exact rights all the civil rights, all the zil libertys. and quite frankly, i don't see much of ati vice president was describing there, they are in complete accord. that is the president's policy. he believes the heterosexual couples, the gay couples should have the same legal rights. >> gay activists and supports of president obama in the campaign are asking the president to clarify where he stands on gay marriage after vice president biden comments this weekend. this created a stir in the past couple of days. will's bring in expanded panel. steve hayes for "weekly standard." ruth marcus for "washington post."
syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. ruth, this is getting attention. you wrote a column about this. what do you think about this and how big of a problem is this for the president? >> this makes him look weak and evasive. if i were the white house and the obama campaign you would make it stop as quickly as possible by coming out and saying yes, i support same-sex marriage. now can we talk about something that is more central to more voters. i don't think it would be a huge political cost to him. there is a political gain with younger voters and gay voters and gay donors who are a big piece of the party. i think once the vice president made his remarks ve to get it cleaned up. >> the cat was out of the bag. >> exactly. >> the politics of this, is that what we are staring at in the face? politic of how it plays in indiana or north carolina or some of the other states?
>> the election is not decided op this but this is a distraction. i think anyone who says this was planned by the white house to have the vice president out in front of it is not looking at the president on the faces of the advisors going there goes biden again. >> a lot of them this is the worst baf he had in the 3-1/2 years. the politics are at play here. one of the reasons are princess voters. this is still a controversial issue among black leaders in churching and other things. there is a political risk. president advisors would rather not go there. i don't know if they have to. it would look odd now if he would come out and support it after a couple of days. >> the evolving could happen quickly. >> perhaps. >> steve, most polls have it pretty split for the country
on gay marriage. there is not a lot of people who believe that if the president was re-elected that his stance would be supporting gay marriage. it seems that the evolution would happen. most people believe. why isn't it happening now? >> the speech to ruth's point. ask 100 people who work in the white house what the president's position is on gay marriage. if there were no political costs you would find 100 people saying the president favors gay marriage. what has been interesting to me to watch in the past couple of days this is a white house and obama campaign that seems to thrive on distractions. they thought to create distractions and to keep the president from talking so much about the economy and debt and deficit issues and the things that voters care most about. in this case, they haven't jumped at the opportunity to talk about it much. it's as a result of the fact that there are polls in a
variety of states they think they need to win and it suggests that the voters are not where the president, we assume the president is. there are polls in ohio, and florida. we'll see what happens in north carolina that suggest that while the rest of the country is trending in the direction of accepting gay marriage and independent voters nationally if you look at the gallup poll. 57/40 favor gay marriage. there are still strong majorities in places like ohio and places like florida that do not favor gay marriage. >> bret: to jeff's pont if this was planned by the white house, it was painfully planned, because that is the word by many to describe the white house briefing yesterday. >> i just don't have anything more to give to you on the issue of the presidency. >> not because you don't have news for me? but because he's still evolving? >> it is as it was, yes. nora? >> why does the president oppose same-sex marriage? >> i point you to what the
president has said in the past. both during his campaign for president in 2008, and in answer to a question at the end of 2010. i don't have an update for you. >> bret: so if it was planned, charles, no one told jay carney. >> what it is was, what was is, i wasn't sure how it worked. biden owes carney a big dinner several times over. this is something that the administration didn't need. it was obama had done this with every other, anything that requires modicum of courage, making decision oncostein, missile defenses with the ritions as we know from that unfortunate statement he made on mic he becomes flexible after election. all this sufficient is supposed to happen after the election day. anything that could pose a risk to losing six vote in any one state. he won't touch until election day. by accident prone as he is, he goes ahead and makes it almost
impossible. but i still think obama, look, the signaling here is clear. you wait until election day. i'll come out of favor. everybody understands that. the argument here isn't do you support it or not. obviously he does but he doesn't want to say until after election day. a shell game. hiding the ball. do you think he reaches a point after election day that hers less than arnie duncan? >> education secretary. >> or joe biden who already declared themselves? it's only a matter of timing and electoral maneuvering. there is not unstance in this issue. >> evolution suggests you are heading in a direction. not that you will make a u-turn. couple of points. jeff mentioned african-american voters in some ways i think that the administration is more concerned about white working class voters, especially white working class men who already have a deficit with. in places like ohio, possibly
places like virginia, north carolina, where we will have a vote tonight on the issue. why i don't think it's just a couple day story, it would be if it's vice president. but it will come up as he is in states with the issue on the ballot. a debate about what the democratic platform should be? what is he going to say in the debate? i'll get back to you. i'm not making news tonight? it doesn't make sense. >> bret: how does it play for republicans? where is the daneier if you will in getting involved in this story at some point for the romney campaign? >> the danger for the romney campaign, he is trying to get some of the independent voters and trying to appeal to them. if he comes out too strongly against, that he is going to sort of put up a roadblock on that front. the obama campaign is trying to distract attention now on the romney campaign. say look, his view on this is even worse than the
president's. according to one point of view. we haven't heard governor romney out there a lot on this. it's perilous for him to jump into this because of the independent voters. >> bret: more politics after the break. plus breaking news about that busted terror plot and the inside man working for the c.i.a. wait until you hear this. ♪ one, two, three, four ♪ ♪ you say ♪ flip it over and replay ♪ we'll make everything okay ♪ walk together the right way ♪ do, do, do, do
>> bret: this is a fox news alert. breaking news on airline bombing plot. government source tells fox news the would-be bomber was actually an informant working for an international sting operation. u.s. and yemeni officials are telling the "associated press" that the informant was working for c.i.a. now that would explain how the agency was able to get access to the sophisticated underwear bomb before an attack was
launched. and why officials said the public was never in danger. the device is now analyzed by the f.b.i. in kwa virginia, but that is significant. that the actual bomb was apparently c.i.a. informant. >> sophisticated and high level of u.s. intelligence penetration that we haven't had or known we have had for quite some time. if you believe that the al-qaeda arabian peninsula is the most lethal al-qaeda cell now or franchise, now this is a significant development. you suggested this last night, this scenario. i think -- >> very prescient. >> you are. all-knowing. the administration had escape hatches in the languages when it was described this back in real-time at the end of april, this now explain why they said the things that they said in terms of we don't have any specific incredible intelligence. the public is not in danger. we all understand now why they were saying what they were
saying. >> bret: much more as the investigation unfolds. we have want to turn to politics, the endorsement late last night by rick santorum. of romney, presumptive nominee in the republican party. santorum wrote an e-mail down several photographs. above all else we agree president obama must be defeated, the task will not be easy and require all hands on deck if the nominee will be victorious. governor romney will be the nominee and he has my endorsement and support to win, this the most critical election of our lifetime. what about how this endorsement came about and what it means? >> this is what we call the fine print. it was at the midway through this e-mail, it came out shortly before midnight last night. i don't think there is any love lost between senator santorum and romney. i'm not sure that the romney campaign is that concerned about whether senator santorum endorses them or not. what they want is in the fall her time to be out there
energizing conservative groups i'm not sure that senator santorum did himself favors with the party establishment here. he would like a speaking spot at the convention. we'll see if he gets an 11:00 p.m. slot after the primetime is over. but at the end of the day, it's sort of a last piece of unfinished business of the primary campaign. it's not that big of a deal. romney is the nominee. >> bret: ruth? >> if i were the romney campaign i would give him the speaking slot at the same hour that he sent out the endorsement. i didn't actually count. it had my computer count it. 917 words in to the e-mail was the point at which he got to endorsement. to give you a sense of how long that is, when charles and i wrote a column we have 750 words. it took him a while to get on the point. he did everything except for send out a picture holding his nose. >> bret: do you think the romney campaign cares? >> no. not, i mean if you are going to do it, might as well do it in a somewher more full throatet
way. i don't think they care that much. >> a big race tonight is in indiana. primary race. and it looks like heading in, obviously, we don't know yet that an incumbent could be in real trouble there. >> i don't take any polling too seriously. they are only a snapshot of one moment in time. the trend lines look good for us. we believe we have a large majority of hoosiers who support us. so it's a question of getting those votes in the republican primary so we have a nomination. we continue to fight. >> state treasurer richard mourdock is looking strong heading tonight against a hoosier legend, senator dick lugar. what about that race and the significance? >> i think it's a generationm issue. lugar is a lion of the senate. he has served very well and he has been very important in foreign affairs over the years. that doesn't appeal to voters. he has been in there for very long time.
he has had a lot of moderate opinions. he is not a tea party favorite. i think his time likely will have come. i'm not sure that there is anything he could have done differently in campaigning. he is who he is after all these years. his generation of the sort of somewhat right of center republicans is an eclipse. >> the other race tonight is the primary in wisconsin, steve. there is a real battle for the union support. and who they will fall behind as the recall effort moves forward on june 5 to oust republican scott walker. >> very interesting potential dynamic out of the democratic primary tonight where it looks like barrett is judging from the recent polls is likely to win. mayor of milwaukee up 17 points in marquette university poll taken last week. barrett was somebody who was opposed by the unions. unleashed what was from their perspective a tough web video
targeting tom barrett, suggesting he was no better than scott walker, that he didn't believe in collective bargaining. they made the same deals after he was elected. and that he wouldn't really be any different than scott walker. so what you will see now is you have to see the unions both public and some private unions swing around behind tom barrett and try to pretend they haven't made this tough case against him they have made. >> bret: that is significant if you think about the walker camp. if there has to be a major shift in short amount of time. >> it's a short amount of time is the real problem here, you are right. if there is a time between now and the fall campaign, if this is a november election. the shift would come easier. it's a quick amount of time. this will have an impact on the presidential race here. the bruised feelings coming out of the june recall. whoever is successful is going to have a lingering effect. president obama has a slight essential in the state. it's a tossup in my view because of this recall. >> bret: all right. prediction? recalled or is not?
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